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ybnrml "Ace High"
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:41 pm Post subject: How do you handle blinds when someone is taken out. |
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How do you handle this situation?
Situation #1-
10 players at a table. The dealer chip is a position 1, #2 and #3 have the blinds. The next hand #3 and #4 will have the big blind, and #2 will be the dealer. However, player #3 goes all-in and loses. The next hand #2 deals, #4 has BB and there is no SB. On the next hand, the deal goes to #4. Does this mean that #4 does not have to pay the SB at all? The blinds going to #5 and #6?
Situation #2 -
Same situation as above execpt both players #2 and #3 go out. Does #4 deal and the blinds go to #5 and #6? This can't be right. #4 would not pay a blind at all. In this situation, who deals when and who does the blinds.
Both situations have happened in my tournaments and I made a decision on what to do and no one complained because no one knew what to do either.
In Situation #2, I had #9 and #10 players deal the next two hands with the dealer button placed in #2 and #3 positions. Although some players had to deal more often, no one gained an advantage from skipping blinds, or from having the dealer button more than once in a row.
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drneau Site Admin
Joined: 13 Feb 2005 Posts: 2385 Location: Woodbury, MN
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: How do you handle blinds when someone is taken out. |
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ybnrml wrote: | How do you handle this situation?
Situation #1-
10 players at a table. The dealer chip is a position 1, #2 and #3 have the blinds. The next hand #3 and #4 will have the big blind, and #2 will be the dealer. However, player #3 goes all-in and loses. The next hand #2 deals, #4 has BB and there is no SB. On the next hand, the deal goes to #4. Does this mean that #4 does not have to pay the SB at all? The blinds going to #5 and #6?
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We use the "Dead Button" rule, which works as follows:
Hand #1:
- Dealer = P1
- SB = P2
- BB = P3
P3 goes out
Hand #2:
- Dealer = P2
- BB = P4
Hand #3:
- Dealer = P3 (button goes to where P3 was...the button is "dead")
- SB = P4
- BB = P5
P2 would physically deal this hand, but the button is at P3. _________________ --
Dr. Neau (not a real doctor)
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drneau Site Admin
Joined: 13 Feb 2005 Posts: 2385 Location: Woodbury, MN
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: How do you handle blinds when someone is taken out. |
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ybnrml wrote: | How do you handle this situation?
Situation #2 -
Same situation as above execpt both players #2 and #3 go out. Does #4 deal and the blinds go to #5 and #6? This can't be right. #4 would not pay a blind at all. In this situation, who deals when and who does the blinds.
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Hand #1
- Button = P1
- SB = P2
- BB = P3
P2 and P3 go out
Hand #2
- Button = P2 (dead)
- BB = P4
Hand #3
- Button = P3 (dead)
- SB = P4
- BB = P5 _________________ --
Dr. Neau (not a real doctor)
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http://home.comcast.net/~jneau
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ybnrml "Ace High"
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:20 pm Post subject: Thanks |
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I was not prepared for this situation and they both happened the same night. I appreciate the info. |
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drneau Site Admin
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: Thanks |
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ybnrml wrote: | I was not prepared for this situation and they both happened the same night. I appreciate the info. |
This statement could be taken way out of context. _________________ --
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LA_Rounder "Straight to the Ace"
Joined: 22 Dec 2005 Posts: 95 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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i prefer the dead button rule. it's simplest because it does not take an entire orbit to "right" the button. also, imagine the trouble if more than one person went out on the same orbit... |
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chunky "Ace High"
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jumperjeff "Miracle Flush"
Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Posts: 118 Location: Edmonton, AB
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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The correct action has already been discussed by the good doctor so I won't repeat it.
I prefer the Dead Button Rule too. It's just a lot easier. Just think "There has to be a big blind. The same person can't have the big blind twice." _________________ JumperJeff
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5thStreetPokerParties.com Founding Father
Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 145 Location: MINNESOTA
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:11 am Post subject: |
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Dead button is the way to go... The only benefit I see to the moving button is not giving a player the optimal position twice in a row and maximizing the rake on every hand. _________________ "Play Like The Pros Play"
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Stick "Ace High"
Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Posts: 22
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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I would say that the Dead Button is more fair...
as far as "easiest", my first experience online was with Pacific Poker, and they used a "moving button" rule. no matter who goes out where, you always move the dealer button to the next player, clockwise, and the next two players pay small and big. You don't care about skipped blinds. Their philosophy was that the chances of missing a blind were the same for everyone.
In any case, I would say this is the "simplest" method, cause you don't have to think about it at all. Just move the buton. |
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Wolvie1079 "Ace High"
Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 17
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:37 am Post subject: |
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When explaining the dead button rule to our new players we state it like this:
- There is always a big blind, and
- No person still in the game may skip being in the big blind
So basically think of the big blind as moving around the table and the small blind and button being positioned accordingly.
*edit for spelling - I should never post late at night* |
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